To my niece out for her first hunt ever, we got there early to find that the full moon made it hard to get where i wanted to be with her. So we setup 100 yards away, they were going nuts in the trees and that got her excited. When they come down the hen made it hard to pull the toms away but we got 2 to come down to us. she shot and missed them. Told her we would find another group and try again, .5 hour later we set up in the woods with some birds just over a ridge, 1.5 hours of calling and waiting two hens came up looking with two Jake's fallowing. Told her it was up to her and if she wanted she could shot when ready. 2 Jake's with 1 20ga round.