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MHF US Midwest => Hunting Michigan Lower => Topic started by: mbrooks on Aug 27, 2008, 09:00:09 AM
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In case you didn't here it on the news. This is a portion of what's on the DNR's web site:
In the wake of Monday's announcement that Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) has been confirmed in a three-year old privately-owned white-tailed deer in Kent County, the Michigan Department of Natural Resources is acting immediately to implement provisions of the state's Surveillance and Response Plan for CWD.
Among the provisions is an immediate ban on all baiting and feeding of deer and elk in the Lower Peninsula. DNR conservation officers will step up surveillance and enforcement efforts on baiting. Baiting and feeding unnaturally congregate deer into close contact, thus increasing the transmission of contagious diseases such as CWD and bovine tuberculosis. Bait and feed sites increase the likelihood that those areas will become contaminated with the feces of infected animals, making them a source of CWD infection for years to come.
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i still can't believe they let you bait deer to begin with!
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i still can't believe they let you bait deer to begin with!
I just like watching them come up to my feeder in the back yard every night. Guess I'll have to find another sort of entertainment. This year I've been having a doe and her fawn here almost every night.... pretty cool to watch
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i still can't believe they let you bait deer to begin with!
If a store can bait you will sales ad.. then i sound be able to bait for deer
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I use bait every once in awhile and the ban isn't gonna effect my hunting!!! If you do your home work,you don't need bait! I do feel sorry for all the little mom&pop store's that rely on that income to help them get by.
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Was at Bass pro getting a deer call and looked down the feed aisle and they had signs up talking about the ban. Looked like the aisle hadn't been touched in a month. Bet the outdoor stores and small farmers are hitting this.
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First I'll say, each to their own, I wouldn't try to stop anyone from legally hunting over bait. But doesn't it take the hunting out of hunting? I can go two weeks or more without seeing a deer, and I'm fine with that it makes the ones I get that much more gratifying.
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dose anyone know if things like come mere deer and other things like that are considered baiting?
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Yes they are. Anything the deer can consume or uses minerals or natural foods is considered bait.
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Anything they can consume, including salt, supplements etc. Doe in heat etc are still legal, just not food type products, apples corn etc.
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This is what the DNR states as bait
What is considered bait?
According to state law, “bait” for deer is “a substance composed of grains, minerals, salt, fruit,
vegetables, hay or any other food material, whether natural or manufactured, which may lure,
entice or attract deer.”
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So if you read what the law says I "could" be in violation of michigan law because my deer stand sits on the edge of a corn field, and a hay field on a little strip of trees. But yet the city of Rochester Hills Mi can hire "sharpshooters" (off duty deputies) to take out some of the deer there. They had better do it in the correct deer season and by the same laws I follow. I for the last 10 years or so have always left something out for the deer to eat on, through the winter months only. One deer and it was privatly owned, what happened to the ranch? All the ranches? As far as I know they are still open and in business. Weren't those owners susposed to have papers or whatnot about the animals they brought in? or get them checked by a vet? This still irratates the hell outa me.. Where's the mob with pitch forks and torches forming............
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Hello, new to site
I've never been a baiter but don't discourage it, D.N.R says baitpiles congragate deer in which they will come nose to nose , and their saliva is left on said bait for the next deer to come in contact with. Now I'm 41 yrs old been hunting since I was 12 shooting since I could hold a gun,been in the woods my entire life. I have seen deer come nose to nose when they meet in the woods, smelling eachother like dogs,And what about licking branches? Ears of corn that more than one deer eat off? I could go on and on, but my point is whats the difference between all the natural things deer do, and a bait pile? sorry for the length but it could have been longer ;D
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Hello, new to site
I've never been a baiter but don't discourage it, D.N.R says baitpiles congragate deer in which they will come nose to nose , and their saliva is left on said bait for the next deer to come in contact with. Now I'm 41 yrs old been hunting since I was 12 shooting since I could hold a gun,been in the woods my entire life. I have seen deer come nose to nose when they meet in the woods, smelling eachother like dogs,And what about licking branches? Ears of corn that more than one deer eat off? I could go on and on, but my point is whats the difference between all the natural things deer do, and a bait pile? sorry for the length but it could have been longer ;D
i agree with everything you just said
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First I'll say, each to their own, I wouldn't try to stop anyone from legally hunting over bait. But doesn't it take the hunting out of hunting? I can go two weeks or more without seeing a deer, and I'm fine with that it makes the ones I get that much more gratifying.
Amen! Thats what I thought to.
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i agree as well! i've killed deer w/ and w/out bait. depends on where i hunt. i don't like not having the choice though. i hunt for meat and that's it. we do not eat beef, only our wild game we shoot and poultry. and we use 100% of all our meat every year!!
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Seems yet another oh my god fish and wildlife moment. They seem to jump at the mention of cwd.
I agree with the person who stated it happens in the wild. I hunt a group of apple trees that on some nights will have ten to twenty deer under them. They are coming in contact with each others saliva just as at a bait pile.
Seems they would be better served going after feeders that use bread and whole corn, to feed in the winter. They don't get the fact they are killing deer. Processed bread contains enzymes that kill bacteria, which doesn't allow deer to process their food. Hence full belly and starve to death. Also whole corn, changes the chemical content of a deers stomach, as it changes for winter to digest woody browse. Deer who eat standing corn, also eat stalks, leaves and such but not piles of whole corn, some of which may have been stored for years before processing.