I usually dont like takin that long shot eather! I like em anywhere from 50 yrd on down to IN MY FACE!THe bird i shot last year was shot at 15 ft on the same farm as this one, But this one had me picked out and was about to bust, and i wanted to kill my bird so i could concentrate on doin some "guiding" for em round here, so i took em! 3.5 inch winchester 4 shot, out of a remington 870 12 with full choke, my dad with the same set up, same exact gun and everything missed a bird at 50 fri mornin, i called in 4 nice toms, and they werent comin any closer due to following hens, so i told em to try it...and... NOPE! But o well, i'll give em another chance before too long! GOod luck guys!