Good news, ArcherPat3 just tied it up tonight, He killed the Buck that I lost earlier in the week, it only has six points, missing a brow tine and another is broke off, but he has a hole through his chest and a tore up leg...he is still at camp so we will have to wait for the pics...he recovered just fine...until tonight, he is a real big deer and has about an 18 inch spread...very happy that someone I know closed the chapter...I will sleep good tonight...congrats to all who got deer...! Judges make sure all points are at least an inch in length!