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Hunting by Game/Technique => Predator Calling => Topic started by: The Smokestick Kid on Aug 26, 2004, 01:29:13 PM
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Anyone else hunt coyotes at night? I love it! Theres really nothing that compares to the rush of adrenaline that you get when a coyote comes running in and it's pitch black. When you first see the eyes of that 'yote charging across the field or through the woods, your heart gets racing. Then he stops 10 yards from you, and everything is still...until you put a 12 gauge slug in his chest, of course. Or how about when multiple 'yotes come runnin, and start fighting right there in front of you? On a full moon, when that electronic caller is blaring, or I'm screaming on my rabbit in distress call, the action can be intense. Other nights it's dull, and nothing happens. I love this, it's an awesome way to fill the gap between late muzzleloader hunting and ice fishing.
-Zach
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Anyone else hunt coyotes at night? I love it! Theres really nothing that compares to the rush of adrenaline that you get when a coyote comes running in and it's pitch black. When you first see the eyes of that 'yote charging across the field or through the woods, your heart gets racing. Then he stops 10 yards from you, and everything is still...until you put a 12 gauge slug in his chest, of course. Or how about when multiple 'yotes come runnin, and start fighting right there in front of you? On a full moon, when that electronic caller is blaring, or I'm screaming on my rabbit in distress call, the action can be intense. Other nights it's dull, and nothing happens. I love this, it's an awesome way to fill the gap between late muzzleloader hunting and ice fishing.
-Zach
I've tried hunting them at night before with little success. Usually just see alot of foxes. We have better luck running them with dogs but I would like to figure out how to bag them with a caller.
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I've found that the key to success is MOVING. You may have to move several times before getting a response. I sit for 15 minutes, then if nothing happens, I move. Don't sit in one spot for too long. Rotating the speaker of your caller also helps.
-Zach
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I have tried several different calls from rabbit squeals to grey fox pup distress calls. What do you use most often Zach? I've called in numerous coyotes with a fawn bleat while archery hunting that would have been rugs if I hadn't been carrying my bow, just didn't get close enough to arrow them though.
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Yep, fawn bleats work great, but turkey calls and a turkey decoy work even better. A coyote will go nuts over a call and decoy! I've had them charge the decoy only to get a slug in the chest just before attacking it. Experiement with all sorts of calls, even some unorthodox ones. For instance, sometimes a jack rabbit call works even better than a cottontail.
-Zach
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Yeah, I've called in a number of coyotes while turkey hunting. One of their favorite foods. I've noticed when the coyotes move in thick the turkeys will hang in fields and barnyards much closer to people than normal. I don't know if this is coincidence or the turkeys feel the more populated areas to be safe havens from the hungry yotes. Either way, this is all good advice. Thanks Zach, I'm really hoping to up my coyote take this season. The only ones I've killed have been random while hunting other species. My hunting party takes a good number each year with dogs but I have yet to kill one myself that way.
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has anyone ever shot coyotes over bait in the winter i am going to try it this winter if every thing goes good
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has anyone ever shot coyotes over bait in the winter i am going to try it this winter if every thing goes good
No ;) but they will hit it regularly and it is a great place to start a track if you are hunting with dogs. ;) So I've heard. ;D
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THIS IS SOME THING I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO GET INTO.
ANY INFO ON HOW TO GET STARTED (CALLS, GUNS, LIGHTS, SETUPS) WOULD BE GREATLY APPRICATED
I LIVE AND HUNT IN THE LAKE PLAINS AREA OF WESTERN NY.
MARK G
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bear baiter- Yes, I have hunted over bait. A neighbor works at a slaughter house, and he'll bring me a huge garbage can full of pig guts and blood. The fresher, the better.
Mark G- Send me a PM and I'll give you some info. I can't right now, because I'm on my way to work.
-Zach
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How did the hunting over bait work, I am interested in this, because I like haveing more than just three ways to hunt them, thanks
MASTERGUIDE
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what does everybody do with the yotes or foxes after shot? curios, and want to try it, but never have just dump em or what?
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YOU SKIN THEM AND SELL THE HIDES, and if your weird you can eat them, but skinning them and selling their hides is what to do. You can have them tanned for yourself too, which is very nice for a den or something, but yeah, its alot of good fun. foxes go for 20-30 dollars this time of year, and coyotes go for 20-50, but it mainly depends on what area your in, and how pale the fur is. When you skin them, case them, don't do the ancient cut down the middle style, or they won't sell. If you want to know more on how to skin them reply, and i will tell you how to skin them, they are all mainly the same, just different sizes.
MASTERGUIDE
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no idea how to skin em
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ok, start by hanging the animal back feet towards the sky on a gambrel, or a couple of loops that are tied on to his feet, or one foot, however you prefer. take a knife, and cut a line, from the a...h.... straight acrooss and up the leg on the other side, and do it to both sides, cut the a....h..... out, then cut around his legs, all four legs, just above the feet, and the first cut you made, should end at the circle on the back leg. then start skinning the animal around the legs, then when you get to the tail, use a tail stripper, or a plyers handle, to put the tail in and pull it out of the fur. (so leave the tail on) tail strippers work best, get metal, as plastic can break. then basically pull down, you may have to cut your way down, until you get used to the strategy of pulling, just like a deer, but be carefull, a yote hide isn't as strong, so don't tear it, but u shouldn't have anything to worry about, just DO NOT cut down the belly, this is called casing the animal, so the skin after your done is like a case. once you get down to the front legs, cut and make the skin separate from his armpit, so you can grab the leg and fur, and pull away from each other, then his leg will pop out, and the fur will be separated, do not cut down the leg, it should be left as a hole, then once you get down to the head, cut over the skull, then comes the hard part, the face, go until you find the ears, the first time you do it, you might not see them, but if you do, cut at the base of them , hard and fast, to cut it off, so there is no fur on the head, just a little hole where the ear used to be. then do that to the other ear, then find the eyes, and make the same sort of cut, and make sure, all the fur comes off, even his eyebrows, and all, it should just be a skull with eyes. then cut down, then find the nose, cut to the almost end of it, and make a good hard cut as close to the bone as possible, and make sure it all comes off, if you do it right, it will just be two little boney white nostril holes left, and when the nose comes off, and there is a little nose cartilage in side the nose on the hide yet, don't worry about it, thats good. now the lower jaw is next, but make sure your nose cut isn't too hard, because it could rip the jaw off. Just skin the jaw until the fur comes off, lips and all, then your done. Turn the animal back around, so the fur is out, and have a look, it should look nice. if you want to sell the hide, do not make any holes, because it will get deducted, actually you don't ever want to anyway. Thats it, you will get alot better with each one you do. this skinning is the same for almost all animals, even though other animals might have a different tail, or a different body structure, like a coon, you skin them all the same. except beaver, which is still the old style of cutting it up the middle in the belly. Have fun
MASTERGUIDE
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the part about cutting it up the belly, I put do not cut up the belly, and then I put this is called casing, this may have been confusing, but I meant the kind of skinning you will be doing on yotes and stuff, is called casing. cutting it up the belly is called open skinning. Another thing you can do is buy a fur comb, and comb it to make it straighten out and things. As for what to do with the hide, it depends on what you want to do with the hide, tan it, sell it or whatever. But if you want to tan it, research it, and pick a way, there are so many ways to do it, one way though is tough, and that is brain tanning, I recommend using another way, unless you are in for an adventure, it is tough, but fun. most other ways are easy. if you want to have someone else tan it, i recommend usafoxx they have good prices, and they do a good job, you can have anything you want done to it, and you can just have it tanned, thats usually what i do, then I hang them on my wall. They are located out of superior wisconsin. if you want to sell the hides, either roll them up in a ball, put them in a bag, and freeze them until you can make it to a fur buyer, or buy or make some stretchers and flesh them, and stretch them (there are special dimensions the stretchers have to be if you make them), and sell them, you will get a buck or two more this way, then dry them and take them in, do not keep furs in the freezer for more than a year, they decrease in value alot, and try to sell the stretched hides right after they are done drying, (stretching and drying are in the same process) sell the furs within the season, because it might be a law, it is here. if you want to know how to flesh, stretch, and dry, let me know and I can tell you how to do that to, and where to find things on how to do it. If you take a trappers education course, it will help you alot to learn some of these things. have fun
MASTERGUIDE
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hey masterguide
ripper here i'm new to the forum but i'd like to share what i saw on the fitzgeralds hunting show. they talked about using an air compressor to skin there animals.they used a sharpen little needle valve inserted just under the skin it looked like it really worked.i haven't had the chance to try it yet but will.if you try it let us know if it works.thanks for all your posts starting to enjoy the forums.
thanks (RIPPER) Ron
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ripper, sounds like an awesome technique, I will have to try it. MASTERGUIDE
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yeah, I don't know why more people don't post alot more, this site has the potential to be great, and really huge, like its similar site, iceshanty.com, maybe its all those grumpy easterners, i guess it just takes time for a site to grow. I will post as much useful information as I possibly can.
MASTERGUIDE
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YOU SKIN THEM AND SELL THE HIDES, and if your weird you can eat them, but skinning them and selling their hides is what to do. You can have them tanned for yourself too, which is very nice for a den or something, but yeah, its alot of good fun. foxes go for 20-30 dollars this time of year, and coyotes go for 20-50, but it mainly depends on what area your in, and how pale the fur is. When you skin them, case them, don't do the ancient cut down the middle style, or they won't sell. If you want to know more on how to skin them reply, and i will tell you how to skin them, they are all mainly the same, just different sizes.
MASTERGUIDE
we would love info on how you skin them? ;D
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i love to coyote hunt we have a long season here in western ny like chen said hunting at night is fun but that hour or so before dusk is my favorite
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You're allowed to hunt at night!!??????? :o :-\ :-\
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in NY yes tou can use spotlights with red lenses are the best but ive seen some hunt just by moonlight others with a light mounted on there scopes coyotes are most active at night so its the best time to hunt them for most but i find from about 3 pm to an hour after dark to be the best for me
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Yeah coyotes are lots of fun. In the last few years they changed the regs here and now you can use electronic calls. I like my wounded rabbit call and use a mouse squeeker for close up work.
If you guys like coyotes, should try wolves. Way harder unless they have already been through the area.
I once spotted 6 large black wolves cruising through a valley bottom. I waited till they had passed and about 300 yards away. I then snuck down there into position. I then let loose with a distress call. I saw them coming at 150 yards and came to 100 yards then 2 went up one side of the hill still coming at me, 2 on the other side of hill coming to me, and the 2 others straight up the bottom at me. The leader stopped at 75 yards and started snapping his jaws at the air. Put the hair on my back up when they were circling me. I took the leader and he was 214 lbs. Didn't get another shot after the first one as they scattered away.
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awesome that sounds like a time you will never forget
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Was it a snowshoe distress, or just a cottontail, just wondering, some say it makes no difference, some do, I think if snowshoes are in the area, and you have some thing that replicates them very well, it will help, but I would like to know some opinions.
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Hey TGF where does one pick up a mouse squeeker? I've got the standard dying rabbitt call but have never had much luck with it. My buddy says his mouse squeeker works much better but I don't know where to get one.
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huntsmart.com they have all types of calls get a cataloge has even more than there site FRED
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Santa was good to me this year. He brought me a red spotlight that mounts on my rifle scope and a digital caller for coyote hunting. I can't to try them out on a night it isn't raining.
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Has anyone done much recently? I have been out once so far this season. I use an Fx3 caller and a scope mounted lightforce red lense spotlight.
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cool i never went but my cuz sunfishkid told me about night hunting 'yotes
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i know i want to hunt coyotes at night
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Where is the best place to buy a cordless spotlight, like a 1 or 2 million candlepower unit with a red lens? Saw the one on Cabelas, but it is a corded unit.
Thanks ;D
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Hmmm. not sure, diversion, sorry
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i been hunting coyotes alot the last few years after deer season ends until ice season starts. I go around and find places where people dump there deer carcuss' from deer season and sit over them at night and give a few howls. I hunt here in the northeast and it if i'm not over carcuss piles i sit for about an hour maybe hour and a half if i have coyotes talking back. Seems like yotes here in eastern ny take around an hour to come in. I've killed 6 in the last two not over bait and only 1 came in within the first ten min. the rest were all around 45 min to a little over an hour. Calling would vary. i mostly use a fawn or rabbit in distress. Some nights they want the caller running only 2 to three min at a time other nights they want it running nonstop for fifteen to twenty min. Just have to experiment with the yotes in your area.