Thanks again guys it is always very satisfying to be with your son or daughter when there are successful in what ever they are doing. Mooter I am looking forward to seeing you on the ice. But thanks again ti adkRoy, Milton, Lt, BottomDweller the real BIG ELK MAN! I would like to shoot one like BD someday Great Bull! and XXII outdoor we are blessed out west here, your are so right and we do know it! I will let the kid know thanks again.