I had seen 3 bucks bigger than him during gun season but after close to 40hrs on the stand just in gun season alone I am very happy with him! 8 points oone of the biggest bodied deer ive killed so far. His neck was still very swollen as well. Shot him at 18yds lol came out right infront of me following the scent i laid out for him. 30-06 180grain bullets did him in nicely.