A lot of them hunt here too 30-30.....I know of five camps that are from Vermont...they come every year as we open earlier, and they say have more deer....I'm not sure of the second part....I think we just have more state lands to hunt....
There are more deer on the moon than in Vermont. We started with antler restrictions some years ago, but that only grows antlers, not herds. Until we improve our habitat which is mostly mature forest, not successional, our herd and subsequently our kill will remain low. There is too much money (Taxes, camps, outof state licenses etc) tied up in the 'annual deer herd report' to believe it. Trust me, you have more deer. I am done with Vermont for an indefinite amount of time. I have an opportunity developing in New Yorkand am looking forward to making that happen.