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Title: Sick deer???
Post by: scalloper on Jan 09, 2012, 11:31:17 AM
I just returned from a deer hunt on Marylands Eastern shore,Chestertown area. Two of my hunting buddies shot 1 deer each that were very sick. They both had diarrhea very badly,it covered their tail and legs. When they dragged one the hair came off and they were both in very poor condition,so poor and sickly they were both discarded. I also found where deer had had the "runns or diarrhea" in the woods on two different properties. I had read that CWD had been identified in a western county but not in the Chestertown area. One hunter said he thought it could be "Blue tongue". Have any of you seen this before? These deer were shot fri and sat so I could contact a bio and have them checked out as they were left in the woods.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: drobertsinMaryland on Jan 09, 2012, 04:54:05 PM
You should have called DNR and reported any sick deer immediately. I don't think it would be a wise idea to call them now and tell them you left them in the woods. Personally I saw twenty dead deer over Fri & Sat. all healthy corn and soy bean eaters. Maybe the deer your buddies shot just had the mud butt from the swamp water.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: bogmanjr on Jan 09, 2012, 04:57:58 PM
Mud butt...... :o :o
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jan 09, 2012, 06:09:54 PM
You should have called them right away...
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: jperch on Jan 09, 2012, 07:12:38 PM
That's very interesting, I have never seen those symptoms in a deer.  It would be interesting to hear from a biologist as to what the likely cause was.  jperch
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: bogmanjr on Jan 09, 2012, 07:57:54 PM
I'm thinking there must be a 1-800 # that would have gotten to a switchboard.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: drobertsinMaryland on Jan 10, 2012, 06:03:29 AM
I'm thinking there must be a 1-800 # that would have gotten to a switchboard.
Sure is its in the hunting manual. Wonder if anyone took the time to read it? If non residents want to shoot our deer at least read the manual. Here is a write up from DNR
http://dnr.maryland.gov/wildlife/Hunt_Trap/deer/disease/cwdinformation.asp (http://dnr.maryland.gov/wildlife/Hunt_Trap/deer/disease/cwdinformation.asp)

Paragraph that should have been read.
How can I help?
You can help by reporting any deer that are emaciated, unhealthy or act abnormally to the MD DNR toll free number 1-(877) 620-8367 (ext. 8540). During hunting seasons, hunters may be asked by biologists for permission to collect brain tissue samples from harvested deer at meat processors
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: scalloper on Jan 10, 2012, 08:09:59 PM
Sure is its in the hunting manual. Wonder if anyone took the time to read it? If non residents want to shoot our deer at least read the manual. Here is a write up from DNR
http://dnr.maryland.gov/wildlife/Hunt_Trap/deer/disease/cwdinformation.asp (http://dnr.maryland.gov/wildlife/Hunt_Trap/deer/disease/cwdinformation.asp)

Paragraph that should have been read.
How can I help?
You can help by reporting any deer that are emaciated, unhealthy or act abnormally to the MD DNR toll free number 1-(877) 620-8367 (ext. 8540). During hunting seasons, hunters may be asked by biologists for permission to collect brain tissue samples from harvested deer at meat processors
Sence two were shot on the same 20 acre peice of land I thought it was common. We showed the deer to the land owner so dont give me the "Our Deer crap" they let the land owner chose what to do.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: venisonman on Jan 10, 2012, 08:42:46 PM
Calm down scalloper........he was just pointing out that there should have been more first hand responsibillity by the hunter. We all have a duty to the resource. Live and learn.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: drobertsinMaryland on Jan 11, 2012, 06:57:02 AM
Sence two were shot on the same 20 acre peice of land I thought it was common. We showed the deer to the land owner so dont give me the "Our Deer crap" they let the land owner chose what to do.
Sounds like you have a guilty conscious. I guess that's what unethical hunters do. By the way the deer belong to the state not the landowner. ;)
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: loonyone on Jan 11, 2012, 09:32:43 AM
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Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: frank9pt on Jan 11, 2012, 10:04:30 AM
For Release: IMMEDIATE         Tuesday, January 10, 2012                                                                                         DEC Amends Chronic Wasting Disease Regulations in Response to Maryland Discovery
 
The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) has revised its Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) regulations to prohibit the importation of certain parts of white-tailed deer taken in the state of Maryland effective immediately, DEC Commissioner Joe Martens announced today.
 The first case of CWD in the state of Maryland was confirmed by the Maryland Department of Natural Resources last year. In response, DEC has amended its CWD regulations to prohibit the importation of the following parts of deer taken in Maryland: brain, eyes, spinal cord, tonsils, intestinal tract, spleen or retropharyngeal lymph nodes.
 "Hunters who take a deer in Maryland must butcher the animal and remove the prohibited parts before entering New York State," Commissioner Martens said.  "Most successful hunters will opt to butcher a deer and put the meat in a cooler before traveling back to New York."
 DEC has conducted an extensive surveillance program since CWD was first confirmed in New York State in 2005 and has not discovered any additional cases of CWD since that time.  CWD is a contagious neurological disease affecting deer, elk and moose. It causes a characteristic spongy degeneration of the brains of infected animals resulting in emaciation, abnormal behavior, loss of bodily functions and death.
 It is not known exactly how CWD is transmitted. The infectious agent, a prion, may be passed from animal to animal through feces, urine or saliva. The minimal incubation period between infection and development of clinical disease appears to be about 16 months. The maximum incubation period is unknown, as is the point at which shedding of the CWD agent begins during the prolonged course of infection.
 The movement of infectious material is believed to be one route of transmission. This amendment to the CWD regulations will prohibit the importation of those parts of a deer where the disease is most likely to be found. DEC advises hunters not to consume the meat of any animal that acts abnormal and to exercise precautions when butchering animals, such as using rubber or latex gloves.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: drobertsinMaryland on Jan 11, 2012, 05:25:40 PM
Looks like this is gonna deter New Yorkers.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: frank9pt on Jan 11, 2012, 05:44:32 PM
I'd come down anytime. Would love some live action in January.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: drobertsinMaryland on Jan 12, 2012, 08:46:14 AM
I can show you what the healthy corn and soybean eaters look like. ;D
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: scalloper on Jan 12, 2012, 09:31:49 AM
Calm down scalloper........he was just pointing out that there should have been more first hand responsibillity by the hunter. We all have a duty to the resource. Live and learn.
I do agree. The hunter or the land owner should have called DNR. I did sugest it but the land owner did not seem interested. Seems like deer may be over populated in some areas as thats normaly the cause for disease.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: drobertsinMaryland on Jan 12, 2012, 11:42:30 AM
I do agree. The hunter or the land owner should have called DNR. I did sugest it but the land owner did not seem interested. Seems like deer may be over populated in some areas as thats normaly the cause for disease.
At least you agree it was wrong. I am rather concerned as to what diesease it may have been. I don't think there has been any case of Blue tongue found down here yet. The CWD was found in Western MD not anywhere near where you were hunting.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: scalloper on Oct 12, 2012, 07:33:14 AM
I understand that many deer have been dying of blue toung in the area we hunted last winter, is this common knowledge? I was told that 6-8 deer aday are being found on some properties.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: Fat Boy on Oct 12, 2012, 04:21:28 PM
Here's an FAQ page on MD's DNR site about Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease (EHD) a.k.a. Bluetongue Disease

http://dnr.maryland.gov/wildlife/Hunt_Trap/deer/disease/hdfacts.asp (http://dnr.maryland.gov/wildlife/Hunt_Trap/deer/disease/hdfacts.asp)

What to do about it if you find deer infected with this disease?  Here's an excerpt from the page answering that question:
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Q. What do I do if I find a dead deer and suspect HD?

A. Deer deaths from HD occur in the late summer or early fall. If you find a deer you suspect has died from HD, contact the DNR Wildlife and Heritage Service Field Office closest to you: Bel Air (410) 836-4557, Annapolis (410) 260-8540, Cumberland (301) 777-2136, and Wye Mills 410-827-8612.


Q. Can I eat a deer that exhibits signs of HD?

A. The presence of HD in a deer that does not exhibit outward signs of the disease does not affect the safety of the meat. Deer with chronic HD can often have visible sores and secondary infections. The Department of Natural Resources recommends not eating deer which have large, open sores.
Title: Re: Sick deer???
Post by: scalloper on Oct 12, 2012, 05:44:08 PM
Thanks FB
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