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Title: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Fishcaptain1 on Dec 05, 2013, 12:37:04 PM
Was in the treestand last night and 3:45 I looked and saw a nice buck coming I got ready to shoot and caught something out of the corner of my eye I looked and saw a coyote. I thought for a second and decided to shoot the coyote instead. Now I am wondering if I did the right thing it would have been the biggest buck I have shot but the coyote is dead and will never he another deer again I am happy with my decision. What would you have done?
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: whistleoink on Dec 05, 2013, 01:08:35 PM
Was in the treestand last night and 3:45 I looked and saw a nice buck coming I got ready to shoot and caught something out of the corner of my eye I looked and saw a coyote. I thought for a second and decided to shoot the coyote instead. Now I am wondering if I did the right thing it would have been the biggest buck I have shot but the coyote is dead and will never he another deer again I am happy with my decision. What would you have done?
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: whistleoink on Dec 05, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
I would have done the same thing.
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: CJiceaddict on Dec 05, 2013, 01:19:40 PM
Was in the treestand last night and 3:45 I looked and saw a nice buck coming I got ready to shoot and caught something out of the corner of my eye I looked and saw a coyote. I thought for a second and decided to shoot the coyote instead. Now I am wondering if I did the right thing it would have been the biggest buck I have shot but the coyote is dead and will never he another deer again I am happy with my decision. What would you have done?

I admire your decision and don't disagree with it- however I'm not sure I would have been able to pass on a nice shooter deer. Granted I don't get out as much as some and just seeing a deer is a big deal most years

CJ
 
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: Buckfish on Dec 05, 2013, 01:57:14 PM
shoot them both  ;D but good decision
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: deerme on Dec 05, 2013, 02:17:04 PM
i honestly would have shot the buck, but nice job shooting the yote!
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: hesseltine32 on Dec 05, 2013, 02:43:47 PM
I would have shot the buck.  If you wanna get into ethics i hope you didn't just leave the yote there. 
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: sniperwolf on Dec 05, 2013, 03:02:21 PM
I would have shot the buck.  If you wanna get into ethics i hope you didn't just leave the yote there.
I second that!!
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: griff on Dec 05, 2013, 05:09:10 PM
would have shot the buck and then shot a coyote tomorrow when  it came back to examine the gut pile
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: bikrsrule on Dec 05, 2013, 05:17:54 PM
I would have shot the buck, because that is what I was hunting for. A old timer once told me, after I shot a grouse and missed a opportunity on a nice buck. He said, were you hunting deer or grouse? So, if i were hunting coyote i would have shot the dog. Deer hunting, shoot the deer..
 All in all I am just givin ya grief, but, I would have shot the deer and come back on another day and called in the coyote and shot it.
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: Huntingathering-n-ME on Dec 05, 2013, 05:51:40 PM
It was your decision completely, I can't see how we could knock you either way, I probably woulda done the same as you. Everything comes full circle, you still may get a shot at a bigger buck! My brother found a doe that someone who already had their deer this year had shot high in the hind qtr, followed aways and left blood trail. My brother came upon the trail and not knowing the sex of the deer did the ethical thing and followed it up. After two hrs he came upon the small doe and she couldn't get out of her bed, he shot her in the neck to put her out of her suffering, doing this without a doe permit is illegal, but feeling he did the right thing he called the wardens and told the whole story as it happened, and the wardens came took the doe and name and number of the guy who had shot her. He took the risk of losing his license to do the right thing, and Sunday he was rewarded with a handsome ten pt.... Sorry about the rant, just another story on ethics where everything turns out well.
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: gorilla head on Dec 05, 2013, 06:41:37 PM
tough call. I personally think what ever choice you made would be fine. I shot a deer this year, and have a couple bucks up on the wall  so I might have done the same thing you did. I probably would have the coy dog done in a full mount. I think it would be pretty cool. but that is just me. to each his own. thanks for saving the wildlife with your choice.
GH
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: pipes18079 on Dec 05, 2013, 08:20:00 PM
Sound to me like you did the right thing. I don't think I could this late in season or any other time for that matter. I would have prob tried to take them both deer first and my luck would have missed em both. I some how this season see horns and miss don't know why but had 3 chances at different buck including a brute and fluffed em all.
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: Fishcaptain1 on Dec 06, 2013, 02:50:23 AM
I did the right think cause last night I shot the buck from the night before he is a brute just don't know how to get photo off of my phone onto here any help would be great
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: hesseltine32 on Dec 06, 2013, 05:56:34 AM
You can text it to me and I'll post it up for you.  Congrats
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: gorilla head on Dec 06, 2013, 06:58:47 AM
I did the right think cause last night I shot the buck from the night before he is a brute just don't know how to get photo off of my phone onto here any help would be great

way to go. congrats
GH
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: deerme on Dec 06, 2013, 07:54:23 AM
Huntingathering-n-ME was right!!!!  congrats!  PM me if you still need help posting pics.
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Post by: swnoel on Dec 06, 2013, 11:02:11 AM
Good things always work out for those that are patient!! Congratulations!!
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: deerme on Dec 06, 2013, 11:12:04 AM
I did the right think cause last night I shot the buck from the night before he is a brute just don't know how to get photo off of my phone onto here any help would be great

post them the same way you posted these.  nothing has changed...

http://www.myhuntingforum.com/hunting_forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg174903#msg174903 (http://www.myhuntingforum.com/hunting_forum/index.php?topic=8420.msg174903#msg174903)
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: Stinginglips on Dec 06, 2013, 02:20:40 PM
nice job on both. I would have first shot then deer and then tried cutting loose on the coyote. that being said I have let one dog walk the year I shot my biggest buck. it was in a stand that I knew the buck was around, huge rubs and scrapes and a couple trail cam pictures. it was at first light on my first sit in the stand I moved and the dog walked across the swail swamp and I had the safety off and the bead on his head at 15 feet from my stand and I just couldn't bring my self to touch one off in that area. Shot the big 10 3 days later from another stand 60 yards away. any other situation there either getting a copper mush room or getting stuck with an arrow. I always bring my practice broadhead arrow for that very reason.
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: huntr- on Dec 06, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
good decision in my opinion. Had the buck been running from the coyote it probably wouldn't have tasted all that good any way.
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: deerme on Dec 06, 2013, 05:10:11 PM
good decision in my opinion. Had the buck been running from the coyote it probably wouldn't have tasted all that good any way.

why do you say that?  because the deer is stressed?
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: hesseltine32 on Dec 06, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
Iv heard different people say adrenalin can change the taste of the meat .
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: Stinginglips on Dec 06, 2013, 06:14:11 PM
why do you say that?  because the deer is stressed?

im not really trying to hijack the thread but I have heard from people that deer get tough while stressed out and from adrenaline. Ive never noticed it. the only difference I have tasted was a buck that was shot at the end of the year that was as tough as a boot. but the deer I shot from his bed this year tasted the same as a deer that my cousin gave me steaks from that ran 2 miles wounded after he shot it before he caught up to the thing.

has anyone else noticed a difference?
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: The 3Ps on Dec 06, 2013, 08:33:23 PM
Added stress can cause excess amounts of Lactic Acid to build and perhaps cause this. However, IMO How you treat your deer  before and during processing has a lot to do with quality of steaks. If you hang your deer for 4 day's its 2 day's longer than I will.  I'm a night to drain,cool (with ice if needed) and cut kind of guy. All Steak boned and trimmed prior to packaging. Vac seal for freshness. Never a problem!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pic added
Post by: Fishcaptain1 on Dec 07, 2013, 02:55:39 AM
(http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s495/fishcaptain1/92E8210C-A64F-4ED9-8D2F-24CFC74EB76D_zps5hk9syqh.jpg) (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/fishcaptain1/media/92E8210C-A64F-4ED9-8D2F-24CFC74EB76D_zps5hk9syqh.jpg.html)this was an awesome deer glad I did what I did he is going on the wall great ending to a season
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Fishcaptain1 on Dec 07, 2013, 02:57:02 AM
(http://i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s495/fishcaptain1/CEDECED8-7280-4A70-8C7A-AD6828E7BF75_zpsicre5fec.jpg) (http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/fishcaptain1/media/CEDECED8-7280-4A70-8C7A-AD6828E7BF75_zpsicre5fec.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: bassranger on Dec 07, 2013, 03:35:21 AM
Nice!!! What a cool rack. He while look great on the wall
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Spikehorn11 on Dec 07, 2013, 05:23:50 AM
great buck!!!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Adrock on Dec 07, 2013, 05:24:59 AM
wow double drops! glad you got a second chance at him. congrats!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: deerme on Dec 07, 2013, 05:49:53 AM
Love those drop tines!  Congrats!!!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: The 3Ps on Dec 07, 2013, 06:05:25 AM
Sweet drops!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: hesseltine32 on Dec 07, 2013, 06:26:07 AM
Double drops awesome
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Post by: icefisha22 on Dec 07, 2013, 09:18:39 AM
awesome buck!
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Post by: myemmy on Dec 07, 2013, 12:40:38 PM
Congrats. ,!!!!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Huntingathering-n-ME on Dec 07, 2013, 03:51:04 PM
Nice big buck. Looks like he still had early fall coat, he was gonna b cold.
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: sweet lou on Dec 07, 2013, 04:17:59 PM
you most defantly.did the right thing I just got in from chasing deer all day every track we found today in the snow had yotes on them.
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: fishnmachine on Dec 07, 2013, 04:39:34 PM
Nice! Very unique buck. Congrats!!!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Stinginglips on Dec 07, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
shot it last night huh? you let that walk? I hate to be that guy but this story is very fishy if you as my fishcaptain. here is the picture of that deer killed in september during the first couple days in expanded. can you explain? notice the forks on the end of the right drop tine and the blunt end of the other drop tine and the missing left brow tine, no way there are identicals like this with such character.
(http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/tjjenkins52/5d488147-152c-456f-a346-5f8fc69dac6e_zps8f06a35e.jpg) (http://s851.photobucket.com/user/tjjenkins52/media/5d488147-152c-456f-a346-5f8fc69dac6e_zps8f06a35e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Brower07 on Dec 07, 2013, 06:12:41 PM
This whole thing is bizarre. What are you trying to prove SL? I get it to a point, but was there a need to research the deer?
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Stinginglips on Dec 07, 2013, 06:15:28 PM
This whole thing is bizarre. What are you trying to prove SL? I get it to a point, but was there a need to research the deer?

no there was no research involved, the guy that shot it lives up the road from my grandparents. the picture I posted was sent to me the day after it was shot.
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: aquaassassin on Dec 07, 2013, 06:19:20 PM
This whole thing is bizarre. What are you trying to prove SL? I get it to a point, but was there a need to research the deer?

It definatly wasn't researched, that deer was shot within 20 mins. Of my house and everyone and there mom saw it dead in September. Everyone around here knew when it was posted what deer that was lol. Also notice no winter coat and the arrow in his pic.

The only thing bizarre is why would someone post that 3 page thread of what we now know is BS? That is BIZARRE.

Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Therealdeal on Dec 07, 2013, 06:33:56 PM
Does somebody need some attention cause they can't shoot there own buck?  UNREAL!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Huntingathering-n-ME on Dec 07, 2013, 06:47:09 PM
I didn't want to be the first to call him out, but I knew there was no deer in me/Nh that was still carrying that fine coat this time of year. Hahaha
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Brower07 on Dec 07, 2013, 07:26:35 PM
not local to you area...my bad!. I havent shot crap this season, doesnt mean im gonna find a pick of a buck and through it on here claiming i shot it. definitely grinds me a little bit.
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Huntingathering-n-ME on Dec 07, 2013, 07:36:53 PM
This is the same hunter that showed pics of big bucks on a "legal" bait pile and said it was just for the viewing purposes of the kids... Sounds like another fishy captain story to me!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Stinginglips on Dec 07, 2013, 07:45:04 PM
This is the same hunter that showed pics of big bucks on a "legal" bait pile and said it was just for the viewing purposes of the kids... Sounds like another fishy captain story to me!

Yeah I just saw those too. The second I saw this rack I was certain it was the same deer
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: oldpro51 on Dec 07, 2013, 08:22:41 PM
Well I guess it takes all kinds of people....seen this before... used to work with a guy who every season came back to work with pictures of nice bucks... but someone else was in the picture and holding the deer by the horns.... one year he even came in with a mule deer rack and claimed it was a whitetail shot in niles new york...LOL
Title: Re: Good ethics?
Post by: Buck Chaser on Dec 07, 2013, 08:45:18 PM
I would have shot the buck.  If you wanna get into ethics i hope you didn't just leave the yote there.
LOL! There is no ethics in this made up story! Nor was there a coyote!!!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: gorilla head on Dec 07, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
Sounds like some one needs a little attention. Boy thing. LOL I wouldn't want to hunt with this guy, You shoot a deer, You would come up missing and he would tag your deer as his own. I'm sure things like that happen. To be starved for attention like that can you say SCARY!!!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Green Mountian Hunter on Dec 08, 2013, 04:18:00 AM
Got his face covered for some reason ; Didn't want to be Identified did he ; Killing something he didn't kill
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Stinginglips on Dec 08, 2013, 05:10:04 AM
Got his face covered for some reason ; Didn't want to be Identified did he ; Killing something he didn't kill

I covered the real hunters face, don't know him so I didn't want to post his face.
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: swnoel on Dec 08, 2013, 04:02:24 PM
I guess he feels if Obama and all his administration can get away with lying, why can't he!! Pretty sad.
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: huntny30 on Dec 08, 2013, 04:25:18 PM
It definatly wasn't researched, that deer was shot within 20 mins. Of my house and everyone and there mom saw it dead in September. Everyone around here knew when it was posted what deer that was lol. Also notice no winter coat and the arrow in his pic.

The only thing bizarre is why would someone post that 3 page thread of what we now know is BS? That is BIZARRE.

LOL, this is funny Frank, I saw this buck on the Northeast Big Buck club page back in Sept and asked you about it, you played softball with the guy who really shot it...too funny that was the fake picture used...good catch Stinginglips...!
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Post by: Buck Chaser on Dec 08, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
I would love to read a reply from fishcaptain1!    Where'd he go!   Everybody is buzzing about his double drop tine buck!
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Post by: Swampdonkey on Dec 08, 2013, 05:11:20 PM
Hahaha. Wow pretty sad.
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Post by: Stinginglips on Dec 08, 2013, 06:56:18 PM
I would love to read a reply from fishcaptain1!    Where'd he go!   Everybody is buzzing about his double drop tine buck!

thats exactly what im waiting for.
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: deerme on Dec 08, 2013, 08:36:56 PM
i wouldn't hold your breath  ::)
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Post by: bassranger on Dec 08, 2013, 09:07:28 PM
Well I take my congrats back.  ::)
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Post by: fishnmachine on Dec 08, 2013, 10:09:47 PM
Well I take my congrats back.  ::)

X2 !!!
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: jlaclair on Dec 08, 2013, 10:41:27 PM
I dont even know what to say  :o
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: TallywackahME on Mar 15, 2014, 09:45:46 PM
Lmfao! How did I miss this thread!? SL, you should have gotten the hero story of how he killed it before you brought it out hahaha
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: ship of fools on Mar 17, 2014, 08:35:17 AM
This thread made me realize i never posted my big deer from last year. I'm not in this particular picture...  he is one of my hunting buddies.

(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww95/ShipofFools124/NY_State_Record_Buck_zps07997669.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/ShipofFools124/media/NY_State_Record_Buck_zps07997669.jpg.html)
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Post by: tubeslinger on Mar 17, 2014, 08:55:07 AM
hmmmm I see.
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: ship of fools on Mar 17, 2014, 09:24:26 AM
hmmmm I see.

yup ....  got it with an atlatl no less   ;D

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Post by: Green Mountian Hunter on Mar 17, 2014, 03:27:51 PM
X-2 ammmmm  .....
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Post by: rlgs312 on Apr 03, 2014, 08:41:00 AM
This is a sad story especially with the title, Good ethics, very sad to think someone would do this. :(
Title: Re: Good ethics?pics added
Post by: Stinginglips on Apr 03, 2014, 07:28:05 PM
Lmfao! How did I miss this thread!? SL, you should have gotten the hero story of how he killed it before you brought it out hahaha


I couldn't hold it back once I saw it haha. not sure what happened to the pic of it with the actuall hunter but here it is again,
(http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/tjjenkins52/c44043b5-50eb-461d-9857-f5a8f5e8518e_zpseba4e0f7.jpg) (http://s851.photobucket.com/user/tjjenkins52/media/c44043b5-50eb-461d-9857-f5a8f5e8518e_zpseba4e0f7.jpg.html)
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Post by: CAPTJJ on Apr 03, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
How did I miss this. What a tool.  ;D ;D ;D Good ethics, that's funny.  ???
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Post by: hesseltine32 on Apr 04, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
I also take my congrats back.  Good catch
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Post by: tubeslinger on Apr 04, 2014, 04:59:20 PM
Probably shot it with his crossbow. :o ;D
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