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Hunting by Game/Technique => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: SWEDE on Mar 26, 2009, 10:44:19 AM
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Recent changes here in New York now allow rifles to be used in portions of the state. Primarily a slug hunter by force im uneducated in choosing the proper calibers for these two animals.Id like to be able to shoot up to 300 yds, relativly flat so close shots are possible without aiming a foot low and have a caliber that wont blow me out of my seat. (ive shot a 300 win mag before that did that) I know thisfavorite rifle topic is probably beat to death but any suggestions for a new guy would be appreciated.
SWEDE
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270 caliper would be a good choice. Its a flat shooting caliper and deadly out to 300 yards or even more and it wont knock you over either. Bullets are also easily found anywhere. That is just my opinion but have shot and own many rifles.
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HEY Thanks HT Im doing a survey to make my decision. N.y. votes count twice. I see two more posts and im a nubbie buck! Hate the fawn status. Hee Hee Any thoughts on 308 cal?
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The 308 is an excellent choice, but I am a fan of the 270. You cannot go wrong with a 270. Flat shooting and can really reach out and get something.
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I will put a vote in for the 308, I shoot a Thompson Center in 308 cal and love it. And my other deer gun is a Rem model 14 in 32 Cal. ;)
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I havent found a deer yet that a .243 wouldnt pu on the ground. I have shot deer up to 250 pounds and as far a 500 yrds. I trust my gun with an 80 or 100 grain bullet no matter where the deer is hit. Overall great range, accuracy, knock down power, and comfort to shoot. I would not recommend for bear or moose though. (opinion)
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My favorite rifle that i use is a 300 sav. with a 180 grain bullet. I hunt with it here in ny for white tails and for the last 10 years i have hunted in Pennsylvania and i have shot at least one or two deer every year. The bullets are not easy to find though. I also own a 308 and that gun would work well for you also weather you hunt white tails/mulies/black bear or even moose. I bought my son a 243 Remington youth gun last year and he shot a big fallow deer with it. Alot of people like the 243 for deer and it does the job but i think it would be a little light for mule deer. I would choose either the 270 or 308 that way you will have one gun that can take down just about any big game animal here in the U.S. If you dont mind i would like to know what one you decide to get. Good luck!
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Now im confused. 1.. Mod 300 Savage is in 308 What model # is a savage 270 Cal..................2. Now lets say ive decided on a 270 Theres different grain weights in ammo too? What parameters decide which to choose 3...Which brand is moderatly priced and the best quality for the buck? ....4 ..Whats a better choice bolt or lever?
Told you I was new at this rifle game Thanks Gentlemen . SWEDE
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I did not mean to confuse you so let me explain. obviously there are many gun makers out their like Savage/Remington and Browning ECT. The gun i was talking about is made by Savage arms. The caliper the gun shoots is 300 savage bullet. Gun makers usually offer guns in many different calipers. It just happens that the gun i have shoots a bullet that happens to have the same name as the gun maker. Yes you can go to a gun shop and ask to see a gun made by savage/Remington ect. that is calipered in 270 or 308 or any other that they have. yes there are different bullet weights to choose from. As for what one to use and for what brand to buy i would say to buy two different brands of bullets and see what one shoots best out of your gun. It may sound weird but some guns will shoot a certain brand better then others. The most popular brands out there are Remington/winchester and federal. I would go with a bolt action verses a lever action. Most of the bolt actions come with a clip so its easy to unload the gun. I have never seen a gun that was chambered in 270 that was a lever action.
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Got ya H.T> Sort of like my Rem1100 12ga. Took 4 different slugs to find an amazing difference in accuracy. So ..grain weight changes will improve or decrease accuracy similar to slug brands Is your savage a bolt, lever?
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My savage is a lever action and i have 4-12 power scope on it. Its dead on at 50 yards and also dead on at 200 yards. keep in mind that my gun is pretty old and it was handed down to me when my grandfather died about 20 years ago. i have never had any problems with it. My other rifles are all Remington but there is nothing wrong with savage arms and they can run a little cheaper also.
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O.K. Im getting more educated by the minute Lets look at the votes; UPDATE MAR,30
2. 308
2. 300
7 270
1. 243
1. 32.
1 25-06
a combined tally from my and deer hunters post concerning best deer gun also Mt Lions alternate site discussion
And the winner is ( im off to the gun shop)
270 Win.: 150 gr. Hands down. Thanks to all who helped educate and inform. You guys know your stuff!
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I'll be watching this too. Still cant use a rifle here in monroe county but there a lot of new areas open that arent too far from home. My uncle has a dairy farm not too far in the new rifle area.
Taking those long shots on deer that were previously out of range with my scoped 870 is going to be real nice this fall.
I'm still learning here but my vote is for the 308 winchester. Easier to find the ammo right?
I was in the army so I have been looking at the Panther arms black rifle with a 24" heavy bull barrel chambered in 308.
How do you experienced rifle guys feel about black rifles in the woods?
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If your going for a bolt Browning has the smoothest action youll probably work. I believe brwning also has a 270 in lever action. The blr model. Im not saying the 270 hasn't killed alot of deer but for some reason ive seen and heard of more game lost with this caliber than with any other. Maybe just a coincidence but you be the judge if thats what you choose. The 308 is a great woods gun but a little small for game such as moose. But you are after deer not moose.
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One more for the 308
Browning 308 ; Bolt specific
One thing id like to see more of is your locations so it translates into similar topograpy that I hunt. Go to profiles and add locations so it comes up on your post.
You ballistic experts feel free to add grain weight with your choice
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This is coming from a retired Wisconsin warden who did ALOT of crop damage shooting on whitetails. His #1 choice was the 25 06. It's very flat shooting has a good ballistic coefficient and drops deer dead in their tracks with minimal recoil. He shot 7mags, 30 06, and 308. Second choice would be the 270. He was definatley sold on the 25 06. All the calibers will work that have been listed, some more effeciently than others. Can't beat the Remington model 700's for accuracy right out of the box. They now come with adjustable triggers also. My $.02 worth.
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O.K. Im getting more educated by the minute Lets look at the votes; Update Mar 28th
2. 308
1. 300
3. 270
1. 243
1. 32.
1 25-06
Savage 300 and Rem 700, Thompson centerfire, Bolts top levers for actions Grain choices from 80- 150
( All this new gun stuff is getting me pumped and deer season is too far away)
Thanks Long Shot Adjustable trigger sounds great
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My survey and deerman,s keep bringing the 270 to the forefront for deer hunting. the 25.06 intrigues me Too. Im new at this rifle thing so whats the difference between the two. 270,S a larger caliber?
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O.K. Im getting more educated by the minute Lets look at the votes; UPDATE MAR,30
2. 308
2. 300
7 270
1. 243
1. 32.
1 25-06
a combined tally from my and deer hunters post concerning best deer gun also Mt Lions alternate site discussion
And the winner is ( im off to the gun shop)
270 Win.: 150 gr. Hands down. Thanks to all who helped educate and inform. You guys know your stuff!
(there ya go jkoegle i know yove been watching this)
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i know that 7mm mag semmi is not to popular but two years ago i shot a buck at 424 yds straight up a mnt. he was dead on the spot. they call me sniper were i hunt. ;D :D
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Nice results swede.
Looks like I'll be checking out some 270's at the gun shows this summer.
And a good range finder so I can take those shots over 100 yards. Previously unheard of with my 12 ga.
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308 For Sure. I have three of them Ruger RSI M77 International with a manlicher stock, rem 7400 auto, and Winchester 88 lever 308.
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Im the proud owner of a SAVAGE 270 Win. Synth. Stock. bolt, clip. and 3x9 scope! Thanks for the advise guys!
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Im the proud owner of a SAVAGE 270 Win. Synth. Stock. bolt, clip. and 3x9 scope! Thanks for the advise guys!
greta choice as i have a weatherby 270 w/leupold3-9 red dot and it it hasn't failed me in 20+ years
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Good to hear it. I wouldnt have had the knowlege myself to make a good choice if it wasnt for the great advise from all here id be overgunned. Cant wait for Montana in sept and N.Y. whities in Oct.
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A 270 will do everything you want, so good choice. I've hunted with a guy who uses a 270 for moose, a 30-30 will work too, a 25-06 will work (a buddy who was living in Alberta told me outfitters who he knew liked the 25-06 best), its more about bullet placement and you can place a bullet better with a lighter caliber then one that your flinching from.
You can hunt everything in North America with a 270 from gophers right up to moose (I wouldn't try big bears), While there might be better guns for gophers that are smaller and better guns for moose that are bigger the 270 sits nicely right in the middle.
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If your going for a bolt Browning has the smoothest action youll probably work. I believe brwning also has a 270 in lever action. The blr model. Im not saying the 270 hasn't killed alot of deer but for some reason ive seen and heard of more game lost with this caliber than with any other. Maybe just a coincidence but you be the judge if thats what you choose. The 308 is a great woods gun but a little small for game such as moose. But you are after deer not moose.
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They must have been PP shots ,All the top gun guru's have the 270 @#2 behind the 30-06 all around North American big game calibur.Carmichael and Bodington rate it # 1.get the facts.BB
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The 270 is where it,s at don,t let these jokers pull your chain. Just kiddin I'm partial to the 270 but any of these rifles from 243 to 300 would make a great deer rifle it's really just what do you like think of cost of ammo, ease of finding ammo, recoil but if you are thinking of heading out west I would recommend rifles at the larger end of the spectrum but you don,t really need a super magnum. I know a rancher in Wyoming who shoots a big bull every year with his 243. I always say really big guns are made for guys who don't shoot well there's lots of great deer rifles out there go with the one you like best.
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I have both a .270, and .270 win short mag, and I love them both. I guess I'm just a 270 guy ;D
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HEY Thanks HT Im doing a survey to make my decision. N.y. votes count twice. I see two more posts and im a nubbie buck! Hate the fawn status. Hee Hee Any thoughts on 308 cal?
Any of the mentioned calibers are good choices and will take deer at 300 yds. I shoot a 7mm-o8 in my T/C encore habdgun and that's a sweet caliber too. My son has a 300 ultra mag and I bought him a 270 vangard that shoots very accurate out of the box. I bought him the 270 because I know he was flinching with the big magnum and besides the 270 is inexpensive when you buy shells. That's another consideration you should think about. Cost per box of shells. Usually the old favorites like O6--270--308 are all affordable cartridges . Good luck in your choice.
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My personal preference for both species is the semi-auto 7mm rem magnum that I own. It is heavy medicine for whitetail but every deer I have hit with it was a one-shot kill.
The 7mm-08 is a fine rifle also for deer... I am planning on buying a nice bolt-action in this caliber for next season.
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Well my gun in the bottom is a Mosin Nagant 91/30 model. Made in Russia there cheap under $100 or a bit more and the ammo is easy to find Remington make the ammo
and other places and come in soft point for hunting. It's are really strong round it 7.62x54r. And you can buy the stock and stuff I have.